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I have a 16 year old established Koi pond which is 10'x10 and 3' deep.
Over the years I have had little trouble with green water, but this year I cannot keep it at bay.
I have upgraded my U.V to a 25 Watt unit but that has not worked.
I have eleven Koi whwich are roughly 18 inches long.
Could anybody give me some advice please.
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Welcome to our group! feeding more than normal? maybe?
 
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I don't have any info about your pond so can't really help. But generally speaking a properly size UV installed and maintained correctly is 100% effective in clearing green water in 5-7 days. So having green water means there a problem with the UV. Incorrect installation (air trapped inside), too much or too little flow, worn out bulb, bulb crusted over (can happen in just a few hours), not being operated 24/7, etc.
 
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You indicate you just upgraded your UV to 25W. So I'm assuming the whole nine yards is new.. I.e. bulb, housing, transformer, etc.. If you keep Koi I'd say you are at the minimum of the wattage needed. I have found suggested wattages ranging from 10W/150 gallons to 8-10W/1000 gallons. From the dimensions you provide your pond has 300 cu ft. which is about 2250 gallons. At the lowest suggested range your UV is probably just barely the right size. (8-10W per/1000 X 2250 = 18-22.5 W). Using the highest recommendation, - 10W/150 gallons, it should be 150W. That's pretty high I think. I run a 3500 gallon koi pond with about the same fish load you have, and also a 16yr old pond and I use a 40W UV, (2 20W bulbs). I think I'm on the low side of what I should have for a UV and I'll be upgrading next summer. My UV struggled this year as well and I didn't have as clear as water as I usually do.

The other thing that a UV depends on is the flowrate past the bulbs. I have no idea what the flowrate of your filtration system is but if it is not in the range of what is recommended by the UV manufacturer, you are not getting the full 25W benefit. To high of a flowrate will reduce the effectiveness of the UV.

My GUESS is that your Koi have grown and are producing a heavier waste load on your filtration system providing more nutrients to the algae. This is not an uncommon situation as Koi mature. This year you might have hit a tipping point. I don't know where your location is but the US had a mild winter and if you are more south, your algae might have not have been suppressed much over the winter months and might have gotten off to a really good start where your UV just couldn't over come it. Obviously other factors such as plants, sun exposure etc can be a factor but since you've had the pond 16 yrs that shouldn't have changed much this year over years past. Any chance you fertilized your plant any extra this year? That could also contribute to the problem.

All IMHO! :razz:

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You indicate you just upgraded your UV to 25W. So I'm assuming the whole nine yards is new.. I.e. bulb, housing, transformer, etc.. If you keep Koi I'd say you are at the minimum of the wattage needed. I have found suggested wattages ranging from 10W/150 gallons to 8-10W/1000 gallons. From the dimensions you provide your pond has 300 cu ft. which is about 2250 gallons. At the lowest suggested range your UV is probably just barely the right size. (8-10W per/1000 X 2250 = 18-22.5 W). Using the highest recommendation, - 10W/150 gallons, it should be 150W. That's pretty high I think. I run a 3500 gallon koi pond with about the same fish load you have, and also a 16yr old pond and I use a 40W UV, (2 20W bulbs). I think I'm on the low side of what I should have for a UV and I'll be upgrading next summer. My UV struggled this year as well and I didn't have as clear as water as I usually do.

The other thing that a UV depends on is the flowrate past the bulbs. I have no idea what the flowrate of your filtration system is but if it is not in the range of what is recommended by the UV manufacturer, you are not getting the full 25W benefit. To high of a flowrate will reduce the effectiveness of the UV.

My GUESS is that your Koi have grown and are producing a heavier waste load on your filtration system providing more nutrients to the algae. This is not an uncommon situation as Koi mature. This year you might have hit a tipping point. I don't know where your location is but the US had a mild winter and if you are more south, your algae might have not have been suppressed much over the winter months and might have gotten off to a really good start where your UV just couldn't over come it. Obviously other factors such as plants, sun exposure etc can be a factor but since you've had the pond 16 yrs that shouldn't have changed much this year over years past. Any chance you fertilized your plant any extra this year? That could also contribute to the problem.

All IMHO! :razz:

Craig
Thank you for your time Craig. I think you might have helped out here. Maybe I should look at reducing my flow rate and udgrading my U.V
 
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Thank you for your time Craig. I think you might have helped out here. Maybe I should look at reducing my flow rate and udgrading my U.V

Hopefully something helps! Be careful in how you reduce the flow rate through the UV. You don't want to simply use a valve to cut the flow rate as depending on your pump and filter, you could impact the filter's performance and/or harm the pump. Some pumps can be restricted but I've always heard a rule of thumb that you shouldn't restrict the outflow by more than 20% of the flow rate and never restrict the intake to the pump. You might find that info in the pump manufacturer's paperwork.

To change the flow rate without throttling your pump, install a "T" before and after the UV and a valve after the T but before the UV. Connect the T's with similar size pipe and install a valve here. Now the water has two ways to get to the return line. One route through the UV and one route around the UV. You might also want to install a one way valve just after the UV and before T to prevent and back flow into the UV. In theory the water will get split half and half between the routes but of course the most direct path of least resistance will have a slightly higher flow. You can use the values then to control the amount of water going through the UV and the amount going around the UV bypass. This prevents any changes to your filtration system.

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