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Message: [QUOTE="GBBUDD, post: 368081, member: 10026"] Ug that makes things a bit more interesting for me. I was leaning toward 9000 gph but that was going to feed the falls with 4000 gph and splitting 5000 gph between three bogs and a return line circulating the pond down 2 feet below water level pushing toward the skimmer with 1500 gph. leaving 1500 gph for the three bogs I guess I am well below where I need to be. one bog will be approximately 10 x 6 and the other two were more upflow into the pond on wide shelves with cat tails marginal and lillys [/QUOTE]