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hi everyone!! i'm so glad i found this site, it looks like it could really be a blessing to me and my future plans. I've just started looking up ponds and different water gardens online about a week ago. i finally convinced my boyfriend it would be totally worth the work. he doesn't believe i can do it so i not only have my own expectations to live up to but now i have to prove him wrong.
i'm a huge nature lover and have many pets including a dog, a turtle, guinea pigs, hamsters, and right now i'm caring for a baby squirrel i found about three weeks ago but he will be let go eventually. we just moved and i'm slowly trying to turn my yard into one big nature haven. i didn't think it would be complete without a fish, turtle and/or frog pond! the vet says Hercules( the 9 yr old box turtle) is on it last legs so i think i just gonna have two ponds; one for fish and one for frogs. the frog pond isn't going to be difficult i think. after all when i was growing up i had a huge hole in the backyard that slowly became a frog pond and we didn't do anything to it. they came back year after year!! but i would like advice on how to keep it clean and if i should have anything for mosquitoes because i know the tadpoles eat their eggs but i don't really wont them around. i live in Alabama and summer is bad enough with out them :).
The real problem is going to be the fish pond. i'm really limited on funds so i was gonna do the kiddie pool route. my aunt had one for about ten years so i know they work, i'm just gonna add some old carpet and LOTS of sand to line the bottom and sides with. i read somewhere (it might have been this site) that a trick to make it look more natural ( since you cant really help the original circle) is to put silicone on it and rub a sand and gravel/ aquarium rocks mixture into it. is that safe for the fish?? i also don't have an inside aquarium so i wouldn't be able to "winter" them inside. my friends grandparents have goldfish that stay in the pool year round( they are huge!!), is it only gold fish you can do that with?? or is there a certain depth you have to have so it wont freeze? i'm pretty sure i'm only gonna have goldfish tho, like i said, funds are limited.
any advice you can give me will be very appreciated. even if its to say i'm to inexperienced to do this. i don't wanna get fish and have them die on me. i live in Alabama but not on the coast and also need to know what type of plants to put in the pool that are right for this area? the only thing I've ever grown is tomatoes, my boyfriend is the one with the green thumb, so ill need plants that don't take a lot of work and are best left to themselves. i want plants in and around the pool and would like them to last year round(please keep in mind the low budget when providing plant ideas, i know they can get kinna pricey too). and if i have plants should i also get a pump? I've seen lots of pictures online of peoples ponds and don't understand why some are so filled with algae the pond is completely green and some are pretty clear. i know algae is important and serves as many fishes food but is there a limit where i should start cleaning it out? when we had fish in an aquarium when i was little we always cleaned it so none accumulated. should i just leave it? also when should i start planting and adding fish? its February right now so i know its too early. when we plant our garden we begin at the end of April around here to avoid frost. is that about the time i should plant my pond plants?
i know there's a lot of questions and i have a million other questions, but i am a beginner and really don't want to mess it up. if u think there's something that i should know but havent addressed here please speak freely, all advice is welcome!!
 

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welcome nicci and hope you didn't bite that tongue .If you can find an old swimming pool liner that works great also and people are happy to get rid of the liner .We have several ponds around here made with them
 

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With looking around for parts you can build a pond keeping the price down, takes time and some effort. Post pictures as you go
 

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Your pump may be the most expensive part and you can get cheaper pumps at harbor freight or northern tool online
 
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Welcome, Nicci! If you have a kiddie pool with the rubber type of liner and a frame, just use the liner and dig hole to put it in. That way it doesn't have to be so circular. If you're talking about a preformed "kiddie pool" that is only about 18" deep, you will limit yourself to only fish that you can bring inside for the winter, unless it would never freeze, or you would have to have a heater on it to keep it open in the winter. But, 18" is not very deep if you get a bad cold spell and freezing. Koi would need 3' or deeper, preferably 4-5' so keep with the goldies and shubunkins, they are cheaper anyhow, and can be VERY pretty!
As far as the plants and pump, look on-line and see what you can find. Maybe you will find others in your area that have pond! If so, they usually have plants they will split and give you a start of. Ponders tend to "share" very well! Plus, like most perennials, they multiply and we need to thin them back every year.
It doesn't have to be very expensive, just versatile! Good luck, and do a drawing, take a picture of it and post that! I think you have to make a certain number of posts before you can post a picture, though, so post more questions!
 
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thank you all.... especially about the old pool idea...i think my parents are getting rid of a huge one, hopefully they haven't already. tthanks for the help and i will take lots of pics
 

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