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Message: [QUOTE="Joejoe80, post: 422558, member: 12147"] I get the plants kept the water clean. I understand and I get that plants keep everybody’s water clean. That they filter out nutrients I get it. It is the beneficial bacteria that creates a nitrogen cycle without beneficial bacteria there is no nitrogen cycle. without ammonia there’s no beneficial bacteria to grow. if ammonia builds up without beneficial bacteria. There is nothing to turn that ammonia into nitrite. Which more bacteria then turns into nitrate which is what your plants feed off of beneficial bacteria even grows on the liner so scrubbing the liner it’s self will knock out some of your beneficial bacteria. jdisrupting your nitrogen cycle. Scrubbing and cleaning and stirring up all that Muck and detritus will actually cause an ammonia spike. which will cause the nitrogen process to completely cycle over again. and if your beneficial bacteria isn’t there or populated enough that’s when your system becomes out of balance. I have seen this hundreds and hundreds of times in fish tanks alone People get an algae problem they start scrubbing everything .cleaning all the filters .cleaning all the rock .cleaning all the substrate. all that does is make it worse. It kills off the beneficial bacteria anaerobic bacteria. that turns ammonia into nitrite which then turns it into nitrate and your plants can feed off of. Now in a fish tank it’s a lot less water and more controlled. the best thing to do is to turn off all the lights. Which obviously with an outdoor pond you can’t. Physically remove as much Algae as possible. and do water changes. Water changes are going to dilute the nutrients in the water. I.e. ammonia nitrite nitrate. Judging from everything that you’re telling us. It wasn’t a filtration issue. It was a natural issue that you have no control over whether it’s debris, temperature, water issue. All of that added together. And then breaking down most of your system and cleaning and scrubbing everything you wiped out your filtration system your beneficial bacteria Which caused the nitrogen cycle to start again cause the pneumonia spike and being that you had all these issues going on there wasn’t enough bacteria populated to keep up with all that excess ammonia and nutrients I’ve been through this too many times with fish tanks it’s the same thing Fish water plants. And a nitrogen cycle. Only difference is sun light vs Artificial light. The only difference between an indoor fish tank and aquarium and pond is that you have more control over outside issues of an aquarium or fish tank. I.e. Mother Nature. [/QUOTE]

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