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Message: [QUOTE="divedaddy03, post: 161675, member: 5340"] Hey Ryan, I hear what you're saying about a presurize canister filter. I do have one in my 45 gallon fish tank myself but its allot different than the one that's on my fish pond and I actually really like the performance on it (the one connected to my fish tank). I thought about making one that uses water and I may make one sometime but I was trying to figure out how to make something that didn't use MORE water than we already use (as we live in the south and have water usage restrictions each summer). I like the idea you have about using another pump for the cleaning as well...and I've thought of that too. I'm actually thinking I may make a DIY Pond Skimmer and use the pump in the skimmer to vacuum the pond with...(similar to a pool) Just a thought, thanks for the ideas! Wayne [URL]http://www.youtube.com/user/AWorld4Change/videos[/URL] [/QUOTE]