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Ok, have had the pond up and running for about A month. All is going well. Just yesterday, after 3 really sunny days, I think I have an algae bloom. Not too worried as I know this is natural. However, I decided to backwash to filter. The water was really dirty for a good 5 minutes, so.....I opened the filter up and rinsed the filter pads, and washed out the filter where the plastic media is until the dirt was all gone. at first I thought this was a good idea since I had not cleaned it since startup and the circular pads were really dirty. Now I think I realize I probably just killed the bacteria set up there- correct??? How exactly do u backwash? Tll the discharge water runs clean? I have a laguna filter with uv.....any help would be appreciated. I have well water- very hard.
 

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First off, New pond and complete filter clean, yep you goofed. Now lets work on the question at hand. first off if the pond is a month old and your getting green water, stop feeding as much, Your getting way to much much for that early in the ponds balance, I promise the fish will not starve. Second, NEVER clean your filter with city water or water hose. You can use a small pump and pond water and do just as good of job and the water will be safe for the bacteria. NEVER clean all your media at once unless your getting ready to shut the pond down for winter. Otherwise you want to clean part of your filter and preferably the prefilter more often until you don't catch so much muck in it. As for back flushing. You should run the water until it clears for the most part, but you may need to backflush often to catch back up with the build up you have already accumilated. NOW for the good news. in most ponds the pond itself can contain as much bacteria as the filter so revuvinating the damaged bacteria bed won't take as long as the process is already under way in the rest of the system as well. A good way to back flush the filter is also by taking a 5 gallon bucket of pond water and flushing it backwards through the filter while the backflush valve is open. takes a lot longer but safer on the system than a water hose. Last but not least, Are you testing your water for ammnia, nitrite, and nitrate? If not you really need to start, your at the critical point in the balance of the pond that you need to monitor closely as the ammonia will spike soon, when it does it's a good idea to do 20% water changes to keep it under control until the rest of the sytem catches up. If your pond is big enough and your fish load light you should cruise on through this inital new pond syndrom in about another moth of so then it's smooth sailing. feed less, check water, do water changes and most ponds are pretty forgiving.
 
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Now I think I realize I probably just killed the bacteria set up there- correct???
Don't worry, you didn't kill a single beneficial bacteria. Beneficial bacteria require a clean surface. There may have been some growing on those pads years ago but as they were covered with muck they died a long time ago.

What you have is what I call a combo filter. It's sold as both a bio filter (bacteria) and a mechanical filter trapping muck to keep water clear. You may be wondering...how can it be a bio filter AND trap muck if the muck covering the pads kills the bacteria. Well, it can't. These types of filters are only sold to backyard hobbyists who don't really know much about ponds. They sound great. These types of filters are not used at all in fish farms or high end Koi ponds.
 

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I have well water, but very soft. Have you check the ph of your well? Mine is very acidic. That is something you need to know when doing water changes. At least you don't have chlorine in your water, i.e. from a city source.
 

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Waterbug- it is a brand new filter, so not a lot of bacteria has been established yet right?
Water changes- I had a waterfall leak and lost about 20% - so refilled it last week. That wAs when the green started. Ahhhhh.....I have a lot to learn!
 

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A brand new filter, it will take some time to establish itself. Usually it takes around 6-8 weeks to get established. Some add bacteria, some add ammonia, some just let it do it naturally.
Just be real slow about adding fish.
 
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Waterbug- it is a brand new filter, so not a lot of bacteria has been established yet right?
Sorry, thought this pond was 3 years old...Yes, it takes about a week for the bacteria to fully establish when the water is warm enough (optimal is 75-85F). So the bacteria, if there were any, were killed a few weeks before the cleaning, rather than a few years. The basics are the same...bacteria covered in even the tiniest layer of dust will stop them from being able to get at the water carrying the ammonia and nitrites, so they stop reproducing and normally die.

There's absolutely no reason to add bacteria. You already have the same bacteria you can buy. These bacteria can double their numbers every 7 hours in good conditions which is why ammonia levels normally drop within 5 to 7 days and nitrites a week or so later. The limiting factor is conditions. Water temp, the amount of food (ammonia and nitrites) and surface area. IF you have good conditions and IF you can't wait a week or two adding bacteria can, in theory, get ammonia down a day or two earlier. Studies in the 1990's showed added bacteria only fed other bacteria.

Water changes- I had a waterfall leak and lost about 20% - so refilled it last week. That wAs when the green started. Ahhhhh.....I have a lot to learn!
I'm trying to piece different thread together and am maybe confused...is this the 2500 gal pond with 4 trout? Anyways, did you use a chemical to deal with chlorine in the added water? That could cause a measurement of ammonia, but not nitrites. The algae blooms can be associated with large water changes, but the connection is dubious.
 

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