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Message: [QUOTE="Stephen T., post: 302003, member: 7875"] I did go ahead with the coco coir on top. Near the spillway, I took the pea gravel down about 1 1/2" below the surface and held both gravel and coir back with some rocks, so it forms a pool that burbles out of the gravel like a spring. The birds really like this spot! Even with no plants yet, the water in the ponds has cleared amazingly. [ATTACH=full]90167[/ATTACH] The wire is for a "rock" outdoor speaker which will sometimes be playing a larger rushing-over-rocks water sound, possible ambient background birds and frogs and other times music. Another will be placed near the waterfall into the lower pond. The piping will be hidden behind a thin rock wall about 20" tall. The smaller, 3/4" pipe will come from the skimmer and spill down the rock face or out of it partway up. [/QUOTE]