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Message: [QUOTE="CountryEscape, post: 107519, member: 3087"] Addy, re-reading your post, and realize now that you used hard or solid PVC pipe, and I was using flexible tubing . I'm going to use the PVC on my next pond. Also, I got the answer to my question about how much percentage of bog should be compared to water surface area. I think I'm on the 30%, so the bog should filter my new pond very well! That way I can put the water wheel on or near the new pond at any time, if I find that it will work out after all. My existing pond has the black flexible tubing, so that's why we drilled holes instead of using a circular saw. I can see where the slits will be better than holes in the PVC piping. And, it will be more rigid and larger and no metal clamps to worry about, and I won't worry about walking on the bog, either! Also, I note that you say to have the water below the top of the pea gravel. Do you have another area of plants that float in our bog, or are all your floating plants (like what you sent to me last summer) in the main pond? I have about 1-2" of water in my existing bog. There is so much more information I took from reading this thread this time than I got from the first time! I guess because I understand things better now, and have seen what it looks like last year! This next pond will be much more planned out and hopefully more level than my main pond. :-) Thanks again for such a great thread! [/QUOTE]