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Message: [QUOTE="stavo, post: 451029, member: 14963"] I've decided against koi - I've read that they need to be fed 2-4 times a day and I travel a fair amount. Also Lisak1 pointed out that my pond isn't quite large enough for them to thrive. And I don't want to constantly deal with predators (I've seen herons here) so I'd rather have less expensive but hopefully more evasive fish so they can fend for themselves. So for shubunkins or minnows or whatever else (I haven't researched fish yet), do you still recommend I dig deeper? Freezing shouldn't be an issue where I live in Northern Cal - the temps rarely drop below 30. Come to think of it, should I consider going deeper for the opposite reason - 100+ degrees in summer? [/QUOTE]