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Message: [QUOTE="Meyer Jordan, post: 290779, member: 7131"] At the risk of sounding self-defeating, pond forums are where the old beliefs are kept alive. Research should be initiated from a scientific query, not as a hobbyist. My research is mainly done through Google Scholar and Microsoft Academic Search. If I do research on the internet, I immediately discount those sites that are obviously commercial or forum based. Governmental sites can be a good source of current data also. The main problem with fish medications is not the medications themselves but the misdiagnosis of the illness. There is a severe shortage of people that are truly[U][I][B] qualified[/B][/I][/U] to diagnose any fish health issue. As a result, most hobbyist have to rely on those that are about as qualified to determine the causes of fish medical issues as a plumber is in diagnosing chest pains. And, of course, the never ending debate on R & G versus bare liner will remain live and well until the Pond community catches up to science. [/QUOTE]